Sohbet about Holy People By Maulana Sh Nazim(2006)

Bismi'llah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim...for the sake of Prophet Muhammad saws and Sheikh Nazim may Allah protect his secret.

Here's the latest sohbet from Maulana Sheikh Nazim, sent by Khairya to Naqshbandi group "Sufi Village." (She keeps pretty close to the original language .. so bear with it !)

Maulana Scheikh Nazim's sohbet from 19.2.2006

”O our Lord- save our souls!“
Meded, ya Sultanu-l Anbiya, Meded, ya Sultanu-l Awliya, Meded, ya Rijalallah! Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitani rajim, Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, La haula wa la quwatta illa bi-llahi-l ‘Aliyu-l ‘Adhim.
As-salamu alaikum!
It is a short association and we are trying to follow the ways of holy people. And who is living on earth- billions of people are living- they are two kinds of people: Holy ones and unholy ones. I was once passing through Switzerland on my way from London to Cyprus. There is a famous monastery St.Nicolaus (von der Flüe), always (when) I am passing, his spirituality was asking me to come closer and he was taking familiarity from my spirituality. I was passing and coming there, stopping and visiting the monastery and his tomb also. Once I was there, just I visited and (I was) coming out, a person (was) coming and he said that: “I am priest of this monastery” and I was addressing to him: “Your holiness.” He said to me: “I am not a holy one. If you are saying ‘holiness’, holiness inside, buried there, but I am ordinary priest, I am not holy one.” I said to him: “What about (the) Pope?” “He is not also a holy one; he is also a person that (is being) appointed by some group of religious people (that) we are saying ‘Cardinals’ (for them). (‘His) Holiness’ that is a grant and blessing from Heavens. Whom they are appointed by someones on earth, they are not holy ones. (‘His) Holiness’ is a rank that (is) granted from Heavens to the Lord of Heavens’ servants.” I said: “What you are speaking, it is true. When they are appointed by governments, they can’t be holy ones.” To be ‘(His) Holiness’ that is something belongs to Heavens; that is not a reward or such a thing that people may give to anyone. Yes, I may dress (something that looks) like (the) dress of Popes or Saints- their clothes is holy clothes, as we are looking- but inside, no. Don’t think (that) if a person (is) dressing what dresses (a) holy man, (he is) going to be (a) holy one, no! Clothes we are understanding, but not that person. We are speaking on that point that people must know (that) some of them are holy ones, and mostly they are ordinary people. For example: Can’t be a person King, (even) if he is going to dress (a) Kings dressing; (and) even (if he is) putting on his head a crown, he is not going to be a King, no. But now (this imagination is) through whole nations and people are not asking who is holy one or not. They are not understanding what is (the) mission of (the) holy ones. People now (are) going to be (all) on the same line that their mission (is) to work for Dunya. Who (is) working for Dunya, he is not a holy one, no. Who (is) working for his Lord, he is holy one. Holy one is a clean person, (there is) no dirtiness on them for Dunya, no, but who (is) working for Dunya, they are all of them just going to be dirty from Dunya. You may say: there is a pond; who is swimming in that pond, (in a) clean one, he is clean, but who (is) falling in(to) a dirty pond, he should be dirty. Dunya is dirty and we are not created for Dunya, no, we are created for the Lords servanthood. Who (is) choosing to be (the) servant of his Lord, his life is clean and he is reaching through his cleanliness his Lords divine Presence. (That is for the) clean ones. Who (is) choosing Dunya, all of them (are) just coming in(to) a dirty pond and they should be left through that dirty place. It is so clear, so clear! All Prophets that came, that have been sent- they are all of them chosen ones- they were saying (the) same thing. Don’t think (that) Adam a.s. was saying other words than what we say now. Don’t think (that) Noah a.s. was calling his people to another station. Don’t think (that) Abraham a.s. and his sons, grandsons and (the) lines of Prophets through (the) 12 tribes (of Israel)- thousands of Prophets-, don’t think (that) they were calling people to Dunya, no, but they were calling them to be for their Creator, the Lord of Heavens: “Come and be servants for your Lord Allah Almighty!” (And) Shaitan (is also) calling people: “No, you must try… you must run after Dunya and you must try to enjoy your physical being with so many things from Dunya!” Shaitans’ calling (is) that! (And) all Prophets just called. Now we are living in a time (where) there is a Muslim world (and) there is a Non-Muslim world; Non-Muslim world means: Christian world and then Jewish world- that they are also Book-given people (people of the book), all of them- and (then) there are so many millions or billions (of) people, (that) they are never taking care or (who are) never interesting in Holy Books and (in) following some ‘ways from old time(s)‘. And now the representatives of (the) Muslim world, the representatives of (the) Non-Muslim world, the representatives of (the) Christians, the representatives of (the) Jewish faith- all of them (are) never getting a power for defeating Satan from people. Satans power (is) coming over their powers! They are in such a way that their faith (is) not enough for defending Truth and the Lord of Heavens sent all Prophets and their real inheritors, (as) defenders of Truth. And Truth (is) coming from Heavens. Truth is not from earth; the Balance of Truth (is) coming from Heavens. Every balance that they are doing now- nations and their religious people-, their balance (is) from earth, (and) therefore they are not able to make (a) defence or to be defenders of Truth. They are following their egoistic interests; they are interesting only for Dunya and can’t be able to be defenders of Truth first of all that we must do our defence to make people to believe in (the) Lord of Heavens, their Creator. And secondly we must do our defence for defending that: “O people, take your true ways according (to the) Rules of Heavens that just had been sent through His chosen people, honoured people, that they are Prophets!” (But) we are not saying: “How we are going to be defenders of Truth?” (and) therefore Truth- now (among) perhaps 6 billion people- you can’t find even one million people to be real defenders for Truth. That means: all our destinations through wrong heads (in the hands of people) that are not knowing (anything about the) true destination of mankind; and we are accepting them and following them and (so) we are going to be defenders for Shaitan, defenders for shaitanic ideas. Now people (are) defenders of satanic ideas and works and activities, that what they are doing (is) carrying heavenly Cursing on earth! What do you think (about) now, today, through East and West, from North to South? You think heavenly Blessings (is) coming on earth or Cursing coming? Cursing (is) coming, because we are not defenders of Truth, (we are) not following (the) Prophets and their real inheritors. That is it, nothing else! People (are) running to do this, to do that, to stop this…(Then they are) stopping that and beginning another cursing there, coming another… Every day and night another kind of cursing (is) coming, unexpected…unexpected… until they are saying: “O our Lord, save ourselves!” If a ship (is) going to sink, (it is) giving (an) announcement: “SOS…SOS…SOS!“ (They are) calling. What does it mean SOS? “O people, we are going to die, save our souls!” Not your souls! (If they were) saying: “SOB, SOB, SOB“ it is better, because people can’t say, ordinary people can’t say ‘souls‘. (Therefore they) may say: “(SOB- Save our) bodies, without (the) souls.” Why not sending- they are sending that announcement through 4 directions- (and) calling: “O people, we are in a dangerous position. (The) ocean (is) going to swallow our ships and ourselves! Please, quickly reach to ourselves and save our bodies, not souls!” Why (they are) not saying (this)? These people, 21st century people, why (they are) not sending their announcement: “O our Lord, save our souls?” Why not saying? People (are) running through (the) streets, Muslim people, for a nonsense person drawing. That is (the) Islamic way? No! Why (they are) not going to (their) mosque and saying: “O our Lord, You said, You promised for Your beloved servant that You are going to be Guarantor for him! Please, send us armies from Heavens, as You did some time (ago as) we are believing. Send (them to) us to destroy their technology, their nuclear weapons, send (them to) us to destroy their whole nuclear bombs!” Why not saying? (Instead they are) on streets, burning cloth (flags)! That is Islam that saying our Prophet and our Holy Book? Written in such a way? Allah knows! Therefore I am saying that I heard a punishment is coming for the inhabitants of this world: One punishment for (the) Non-Muslims, seven punishments for (the) Muslims, because they lost their way! Keep yourself! Run and ask (for) holy ones! One holy one may shelter you, but 1ooo regiments cannot shelter you. That is the head of crises and that is its treatment. May Allah forgive me… Therefore ? coming, I am saying: “O our Lord, send us Your Sultan!” Sultan means who has heavenly Power! I was in Damascus at the end of the Second War- no one was born from you- and the French forces were bombarding from Mezza; it was a center of army, protected with everything. They were bombarding Damascus and we looked and saw that one shell (was) coming on S.Yahya, Yahyas tomb. Just appeared a hand, taking that shell and throwing (it) away. And I was also looking (and seeing that) in Homs, (a) famous place in Syria (already in the) time of (the) Christians and after (the) Christians (in the time of the) Muslims. They were bombarding from Kel’a, (a) sheltered place, and (the) army (was) there and (they were) bombarding. I was in S.Khalid ibn Walids mosque- (may) Allah bless him- (and there was) also coming a shell (and it was also) passing! And they were taking as their target to destroy that holy tomb of Prophets people, S.Khalid ibn Walid r.A. Only one piece (was) coming on (the) minaret and (it was) falling down. I was there. That shell (also) passed away! We have power! We are not weak people! Now- we are weak people, but (the) inheritors of (the) Prophets have such power! But people are not believing in holy ones. They are finished… Therefore every day one punishment on (the) Islamic world coming, coming, coming… May Allah forgive us and bless you for the honour of the most honoured one in His divine Presence S.Muhammad sws, Fatiha.

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Sohbet by Maulana Shaykh Nazim al Haqqani (qs). 


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Brother: We are reading Risale-i Nur by Said Nursi.


Moulana: The time of reading Risale-i Nur has passed. No one understands it. I was in Istanbul. They called me, "those boys are having a meeting." I said, "I should go and look." I went there. There was a kursi (seat). They put a chair for us, we sat there. one person stood and read something from the book of Said Nursi Hadrat. Then, I saw that it is a heavy book, a book full of knowledge. It is not like what our young ones can understand. Then an Effandi came out, he was wearing trousers and jacket. They said, "this hoja Effandi, is the 40th." Is he the Ali Effandi, the 40th?


Brother: Mehmet Effandi, the 40th.


Moulana: Mehmed Effandi came out, to explain to them. I saw that, there is also no one there who can understnad what Mehmed Effandi explained. He said, "we are left out, not understood." Meaning, the books of Said Nursi Hadrat are deep books. When you say, Risale-i Nur, it is not an easy matter. Therefore, not everyone can read it. If he reads, the others fall asleep. Because who does not understand..what can he do? He falls asleep. Therefore the book we have..Your name is Mehmet?


Brother: Nail.


Moulana: Nail Effandi, the books we have for people to read on is Anwar ul Ashiqin, by Kara Dawood. Muzakkin Nufus (by Ashrafzada Abdullah Rumi). Kitab-i Mohammediye fil -kamalat-i Ahmadiyya (by Yazicizade Mehmed). There are 7 books that they are open to people. Beyond them, they don't understand. And when they don't understand, it has no use. It has no use..I am not saying Mohammadiyya because it is the book of Hojas. They can't manage - can't understand it. But the one who can read it..you can also read it and can explain it. And the people listen.


Now, there is no one who can understand the books of Said Nursi Hadrat. What to do if there is no one to understand it? "O my brother, open your eyes. Your (shirt/jacket/trousers) is open? Close your front but open your eyes." MashaAllah he has books that can fill a library. Said Nursi Hadrat is a strong scholar. And he is from Tariqat. There cannot be knowledge without Tariqat. No! This is your mother?


Brother: She is my wife.


Moulana: This is his mother. Is your name Fatima?


Sister: Ramziya.


Moulana: Ramziya Hanim. You cut the beef. You put the onions. You put the tomatoes in it. You then put potatoes on it? Or you put the beans, whatever. If there is no heat does it cook? Knowledge without Tariqat is like this. They put everything.. what is missing? There is no heat to cook it.


Knowledge without Tariqat is not real knowledge. What they want to remove is Tariqat so that Islam may not advance. They will go down but Islam does not go down! May Allah bless you.


Put your hands. (Moulana gives bayyat) O our Lord, our oath is to be servants for You. The oath we have given is to be servants for You. Give us power to perform this servanthood, O our Lord. All those poor servants are left out like a car that ran out of gas. You have the order O our Lord. Give us power so that we can continue on the way of Your servanthood. Fatiha.
Are you leaving today?


Brother: InshaAllah, we will go to Nicosia. We will stay there one night and tomorrow we will return.


Moulana: To Malatya?


Brother: Yes, to Malatya.


Moulana: In Malatya there are a lot of good servants. There are lot of Salihin (good servants). Because these places were where sahabas passed by when they were going to join the Conquest of Istanbul; like Diyarbakir, like Malatya, like Urfa, like Mardin..they passed through them then turned up and come to Istanbul.


Brother: Yes, there is mount Beydagi in Malatya.


Moulana: Yes, there is. Therefore your place is abundant and rich.


Brother: It is the homeland of Battal Gazi.


Moulana: May Allah reveal his secret. Fatiha, for all the Holy ones. Only Allah knows how much time we have left but, we may follow the path that Allah Almighty has showed us. Other ways are no good for us.


This is the Encyclopaedia of Islam..Here they showed me the part about secularism and I read that part. This secularism is the garbage that all the Jews in Europe invented to ruin Islam. They already ruined Christianity but also to ruin Islam. And unfortunately, the leaders who rule us they say, "we are Muslim." Can a man be a Muslim and an unbeliever at the same time? What is secularism? It means unbelief. They don't say it's meaning openly. Secularism is unbelief. If you ask, they don't know it's meaning, they don't know the origin of the word. It is the Jews in Europe who wanted secularism, until they finally put it within the Ottoman state. They made the Great State fall down in 10 years. Now you are left out Kurdish, Turkish..


There is no Kurdish, Turkish. They are the ones who kept the Ottoman Empire standing on the East. Don't say "Kurdish." Your origin is Sasanian..Do you know your history? No. From the Sasanians to Selijuq Turks. From the Sasanians to Ayyubids. One person. He is Kermanshahi..Salahaddin Ayyubi Hadrat, he is the man who stopped all of Europe with his sword. And these low ones, secularists are insulting them! You were the nation that held the flag of Islam! No one says this. They put us under fire continuously. May they be under fire! Fatiha.


You can't hear these words anywhere else.


Brother: Allah bless you! May Allah give you a long, healthy life.


Moulana: But Sahibul Waqt is coming, Mahdi (as) is coming. You will be the first soldiers for him. Istanbul will be conquered.


Petikan : http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/blog/4/entry-74-shaykh-nazim-no-knowledge-without-tariqa-secularism-is-unbelief/